After a lot of "Qualing" over the m6 Pentatonic tutorial

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    infernalgr
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    This is a great tutorial!:cool:

    Playing the minor6 pentatonic not only sounds awesome, but it makes me think more, be more carefull about my rhymic selections and note selection.

    After 2-3 hours of working on it i came up with that:

    http://janbuchholz.com/audio/stelios/Various/Minor6_pentatonic.mp3

    Offcourse i understand i need to work on it A LOT more.:o

    But i would like some feedback on this take, especially from Tom.

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    Rootwitch
    Member

    Sounds great man – I know what I’ll be working on this weekend…. Where did you get the backing track?

    infernalgr
    Member

    Thanx bro, the backing is part of the tutorial šŸ™‚

    BenJS1000
    Member

    Great playing there man!!
    I can’t fault it… sounded perfect to me dude.
    Really nice phrasing šŸ™‚

    shatterd
    Member

    Very nice. Good rythm. Good phrasing.

    Tom Quayle
    Tom Quayle
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    Hey man! I really enjoyed this. You’ve really nailed that natural 6th sound and many of your lines sound superb as a result. Your tone is really nice too.
    I’d work now on your time feel and phrasing and trying to become as familiar with the intervallic relationships of each note in the scale with each chord in the progression. Try to make the transitions between the different m6 pentatonics sound as natural as possible and create phrases that move between the scales smoothly. You never sounded ‘lost’ at all but there are moments where you don’t sound as confident with the scales and your phrasing suffers. It sounds like you are maybe relying more on the scale shape than actual concious note choice perhaps? This is something time will fix though as you become more accustomed to the interval relationships within the scales in relation to each chord. If you could keep all the phrasing strong and the time feel really consistent I’m sure all your phrases would sound superb – especially considering your fantastic technique and tone!
    However, after just 2-3 hours I think that’s an awesome improv! I can’t wait to hear more!

    Thanks for posting dude!

    Cheers,

    Tom

    infernalgr
    Member

    @Tom Quayle 9246 wrote:

    Hey man! I really enjoyed this. You’ve really nailed that natural 6th sound and many of your lines sound superb as a result. Your tone is really nice too.
    I’d work now on your time feel and phrasing and trying to become as familiar with the intervallic relationships of each note in the scale with each chord in the progression. Try to make the transitions between the different m6 pentatonics sound as natural as possible and create phrases that move between the scales smoothly. You never sounded ‘lost’ at all but there are moments where you don’t sound as confident with the scales and your phrasing suffers. It sounds like you are maybe relying more on the scale shape than actual concious note choice perhaps? This is something time will fix though as you become more accustomed to the interval relationships within the scales in relation to each chord. If you could keep all the phrasing strong and the time feel really consistent I’m sure all your phrases would sound superb – especially considering your fantastic technique and tone!
    However, after just 2-3 hours I think that’s an awesome improv! I can’t wait to hear more!

    Thanks for posting dude!

    Cheers,

    Tom

    Wow that was very accurate actually, you pointed out all the elements that i was feeling unsecure about. Yes the truth is i took a lot of shortcuts, like relying on shapes rather on note selection in relation with the underlying chord. I definitely work more on this, cause it’s one of the first things i played that sounded jazzy, and with a very simple concept.

    The only thing i don’t know how to do, is work on my time feel, how do i do that? what am i supposed to do to improve that element?

    Tom Quayle
    Tom Quayle
    Member

    There are many ways to work on time feel but I think one of the most useful methods is to find a player or a few players whose time feel you really admire or would like to sound like. Transcribe elements of their playing and try to match their time feel exactly when you play back along with the recording. Keep working on sections of solos by various players until you can play them back comfortably whilst feeling the beat strongly.

    Other ways might be to play a short phrase and try to start it from every beat of the bar including all the 8th notes. So you might play a phrase which starts on beat 1 and then try it the next time round on beat 2, then beat 3 and then 4. The feel of the phrase will change depending on where in the bar you start it and you must be able to both hear and feel the phrase from all parts of the bar. Once you can do this comfortably, try to increase the difficulty by starting the phrase on off beats such as the & of beat 1, the & of beat 2 etc. Basically you want to be able to start and finish your phrases from anywhere in the bar and still retain a strong sense of where the beat is.
    A final thing I recommend everyone does is to learn many latin rhythms and try to clap them whilst tapping your feet alternately. In other words try to clap or vocalise the rhythm whilst tapping your right foot then left foot to the beat. Latin rhythms are so complex that you really learn to have a solid feel for the beat wherever you happen to be playing within the bar. I may do a tutorial on this in the future. I took Latin Percussion classes whilst doing my jazz degree and it helps your time feel in a remarkable way!

    Good luck mate and let me know if you need any more help.

    Tom

    infernalgr
    Member

    Thank you! :):):)

    BenJS1000
    Member

    Some great advice there for me too, Tom!
    Thanks šŸ™‚

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