What makes a great guitar player?

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    Rick Graham
    Rick Graham
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    For me, I always look for ‘depth’ in a player. The word ‘depth’ covers many aspects of guitar playing but I tend to prefer guitarists who have real control over what they play both technically and musically where the notes cease to be just notes; it is more of an extension of the player himself.

    What do you guys look for?

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    Iluha
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    @Rick Graham 2436 wrote:

    For me, I always look for ‘depth’ in a player. The word ‘depth’ covers many aspects of guitar playing but I tend to prefer guitarists who have real control over what they play both technically and musically where the notes cease to be just notes; it is more of an extension of the player himself.

    What do you guys look for?

    Kinda what you described, I see the guitar, as in all forms of music and what I’m most attracted to is when someone uses it to express himself, which is also my aspiration from it.

    Sean Conklin
    Sean Conklin
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    Needs to have long hair, a little bit of eye liner, and can play power chords.

    hehe jk. Pretty much exactly what you said. When someone can literally speak through their instrument rather than just “play it”, that’s a true level of greatness to me, to where it connects with the player’s emotions as well as the listener’s. And that can be at many different levels, from technical abilities right down to simple note choices. The whole works.

    MSzymanek
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    Someone who can put the stuff he learned, both theory and technics, to use in a melodic and intelligent playing. Recently I met a guitarist who played some of the most tasteful solos I’ve ever heard. Funnily enough he didn’t have great technical capabilities, he just played really emotionally, so every note had its purpouse.

    OutLaw2112
    Member

    Someone who comes up with just nasty sounding riffs… seems like everyone can solo, but its the riffs that sell the song… Doesnt have to be technical, just sound good to me…

    Mike Edwin
    Mike Edwin
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    Agreed. A good musician (including guitarist’s) has to have a good sense of melody. Be it single notes in a solo or a catchy riff/hook. If they need to grab listener on a fundamental melodic level, this level being one that even non musicians can appreciate.

    Rick Graham
    Rick Graham
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    Good point Mike. One of my favourite players who played the guitar with his personality was Kurt Cobain.
    Really creative player and musician.

    Bill
    Member

    A great Guitarist can play one note that means more than 100 notes per second, to convey an emotion is a quality that a good guitarist must have …. of course not forgetting the technical aspect:)

    Alex
    Member

    I’ going to go a little deeper than you guys and say:

    A great guitar player plays the things you like.

    One way or another it will resolve to that.

    I wonder why people think that shredders have no emotion…. if a shredder is a good guitar player you’ll see he has much more than just shred in his playing. Playing 1 note for an hour doesn’t mean you’re emotional so the speed can not be a meassure of emotions in ANY WAY.

    When a player is good you hear it straight away – there doesn’t have to be any extra explanation! 🙂

    To me, a good guitar player/musician is someone who is able to play anything and everything and be able to say something meaningful with it.

    And they must also be unique in their sound and playing style. Whenever I listen to a new up and coming guitar player I always ask myself “What does he do that sets him apart from everyone else?”

    A great guitar player should be able to speak with his guitar, Convey the message perfectly to the listener. He has to have passion, soul, and creativity in his playing. He has to offer something new and unique and be able to make you feel what he feels. Also, Versatility is always a good addition, I dont mind if they play only one style, as long as they do it well.

    MarkaN
    Member

    Ok, I´ll agree with those stuff what Sean has said, but also for me the true level of mastery is when the guitarist is capable for one-man-show. That means when he sings and play at the same time, and he´s always on the same (highest) level. That is the sort of balance wich only masters can get it right.

    For example; John Fogerty

    For me, this kind of performace is amazing – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slJKIXQgnwI

    Mike Edwin
    Mike Edwin
    Member

    I think maybe we can extract some more definition from this thread.

    We are talking about a few things really.

    Although Ricks original post was a tad abstract I gathered what he was saying. If I may paraphrase.

    ” A great player is one who has a high command of the instrument. They can speak musically just as they do thier native tounge “

    This Is my opinion too. However I doubt many musicians, of any instrument in history, had such a strong connection. Someone like Mozart would be an example of this elite ability. If we drop the standard a bit there, are a whole heap of other players that start sprouting up. The likes of which I wont go into.

    But then on this does not address the ‘technical’ aspect of being great. One can have a high command of the instrument yet not feel the need to play dazzling and difficult music. They can express everything that they feel inside themselves to a perfect T, yet to most people It may seem quite ‘easy’ or ‘bland’.

    Is this person less ‘great’ ?

    I am getting overly philosophical here, and needlessly. Since the question was “what do YOU look for” so comparisions of opinion aren’t an issue. We are exploring the subjectivity of ‘greatness’.

    So anyway. I began this after reading Pavels latest post.

    Many people I know think that ‘shredders’ arent musicians because they ‘dont understand dynamics’ which I sort of agree with. That is to say, I agree with the point that sometimes music needs to be slow and easy going. But that depends on two things.

    1) The musicians interperetation of the message he is trying to put forward.
    2) The musicians ability to interperet that emotion in a way other than ‘shredding’

    In other words. Some people may have manic souls and Shredding is an appropriate way for them to make it known. This is totally fine, so long as they understand there are other ways to get the same point across and its ultimately thier creative descision.

    When they cant make this distinction. I dont care how fast or clever or melodic they are. The are not ‘great’ . Sadly in most cases no one will ever know the musician in quesion well enough to find these answers. Or bother to find out.

    Mike.

    Gollum
    Member

    There’s been some really great stuff said in this thread, and instead of quote and agreeing with people, I’ll just write my mind and know that I probably agree in part to everyone here.

    I think a big problem with this topic (in general, not here in particular or anything) is our understanding of terms.

    Player – Someone who plays guitar
    Musician – Someone who takes an instrument seriously
    Composer – Someone who write music

    Now, we’re talking about players, people who play guitar. What makes them great? Some might see it as being a great “musician” and those definitions are definately all over the map as to what should make a musician great.

    Now, composing is tricky too though. Sometimes people say things like “wow, they have really good composition, but something is still missing” showing that there’s more than just having the right notes with good timing.

    But here’s something to chew on:

    Mozart is wide regarded and accepted as the best composer to ever set food on God’s green earth. His communication, skill, and tonality were beyond amazing and still unrivaled. But he wasn’t a beyond amazing musician… Paganini for example was a much more talented musician, and only really started getting into composing because nobody at the time was writing anything complex enough for his liking. He was a “shredder” of his day. Everything was too simple, so he started writing overly complex music and went down in histroy with the greats, and is works are still highly emulated by guitarists and even pianists.

    So how much of a “player” needs to be an amazing musician and composer relatively? I personally think one of the most important factors is what impact do they leave on people’s lives? If they’re REALLY communicating well with thier instrument then it will have an affect on people. So it’s also important that they be with the times, and understand their audience and generation.

    For me what it all comes down to that makes a “player” great is what they can do that nobody else can do. Eddie Van Halen. Nobody can sound like him. I’ve heard some good emulators, but there’s still something missing. This wasn’t truly confirmed to me till I got to see him live a couple months ago. His tone isn’t in the amp, it’s in the hands and it’s truly increadible. I don’t think he’s a great composer at all. He’s not even the most “skillful” musician, but he owns that instrument. He has zero fear of playing and no fear of being in front of people playing and it shows. His command of those strings is unique to himself and he created a whole generation of players trying to sound like him.

    We also have other players that by my definition are great, but for wholey different reasons.

    Hendrix. Even less skilled than EVH I think. Watch what few videos we have of him playing live. He’s not that amazing on the fretboard. But that doesn’t making him any less great. Like EVH he owns the instrument like he owns parts of his body. It’s so close to just be an extension of him. His music was revolutionary too, so his composition is worthy of notice. Like EVH he had a sound that’s hard to emulate and is easily reconizable by many millions of people.

    So I look for those players that I can say “Oh, that’s [so and so]” without knowing the song at all. Who’s got the unique voice out there? Who’s doing new things?

    A small list of the first people that come to MY mind (that doesn’t mean this is a comprehensive list, just should show that I think about these players often)

    Phil Keaggy
    Buckethead
    Petrucci
    Zakk Wylde
    The Edge (I don’t care what people say about him being a delay monkey, I can STILL reconize any new U2 song by HIM before bono starts singing)
    Satriani
    Vai
    Tom Morello

    There’s others of course. Many other players I really respect. So I’m sorry if your favorite didn’t make my tiny, pathetic little list. But hopefully you’ve begun to grasp the way I think about it. It’s not a simple calculation that makes me call a guitarists great, but there’s certainly notable factors that DO play a role that ARE somewhat calculatable. It’s not all mystic and about undefinable factors, though the outcome can seem that way.

    Trev
    Member

    A player who’s first name id Rick and second name Graham!

    OK Rick – send the cheque in the post!

    LOL!

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