Can You Sight Read?

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    Sean Conklin
    Sean Conklin
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    And I don’t mean Yankee Doodle, Mary Had a Little Lamb type sight reading haha. I mean like fluent complex sight reading. Years ago I tried to force myself to sight read, and it didn’t work very well. Not because I couldn’t do it if I really wanted to, I just had a super short attention span for it, and I didn’t apply it often enough to where it caught on. I can transcribe anything, but sight reading complicated music on the spot is way beyond me.

    What about you guys?

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    Mike Edwin
    Mike Edwin
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    My actual fuency when reading is still at an amatuer level. Apparently I read at an AMEB grade 3 level. This is the Australian Music Examination Board’s grading system. Supposedly there are 6 grades involved and im yet to acually be examined, this was just a rough estimate by a guy I spoke to about it.

    I was transcribing music now and then before sight reading became part of my routine. Since learning to read though, transcribing has become 10 times easier. Its at the point where ( and this is due to tireless aural training aswell) I can hear a melody and write it out without even touching the guitar or piano. Obviously there are limits to what complexity ‘melody’ ill be able to write out. I guess my point is that reading is an invaluable asset to any musician, professional or hobbyist.

    Mike.

    Yes I can sight read. I am not the best but I am alot better than when I started 3 years ago.
    I am now learning all of these classical pieces and am trying to reduce my dependence on tabs.
    I am not at the point where I can fluently sight read thru anything as in the Joe Allard rhythms book from front to back without making a mistake but I’m getting there.

    The hard part now is just being able to transcribe what I hear in my head but
    I am now finding it alot easier to learn things from standard notation than from tabs.

    Rick Graham
    Rick Graham
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    Sight reading is an area that I should focus on a lot more. I’m fairly comfortable in a classical context but never really devoted enough practice to become fluent. I couldn’t recommend it highly enough though.

    I can sightread decently, but haven’t practiced it in about a decade (that’s he last time I played classical and piano frequently). Haven’t had any used for avista reading since then. Being able to transcribe anything (especially improvisations) is for me the no.1 teaching tool for both yourself and aspiring students. However, APPLICATION of said trancriptions is everything. If you don’t learn to apply everything your learn conceptually to any style, tune, scale, key or tempo, and note value, you’re just learning licks like a copy machine. That is maybe also why I gave up the classical guitar (no offence Rick, you’re a master of that instrument bro). I just didn’t feel like only intepreting others works (even though you can go to great lengths doing that masterfully), was for me. I thrive on improvisation, both tonal and rhytmical, and could never see myself focusing on being able to sight read other peoples music and notations. I don’t see myself being in the situation (studio musician, classical and such) where I would really need that either.

    However, I do belive that you should learn as much theory as you possibly need and can, since good theoretical knowledge can never hinder you, only help you broaden your horizons, and playing.

    Rick Graham
    Rick Graham
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    @Richard Lundmark 368 wrote:

    I can sightread decently, but haven’t practiced it in about a decade (that’s he last time I played classical and piano frequently). Haven’t had any used for avista reading since then. Being able to transcribe anything (especially improvisations) is for me the no.1 teaching tool for both yourself and aspiring students. However, APPLICATION of said trancriptions is everything. If you don’t learn to apply everything your learn conceptually to any style, tune, scale, key or tempo, and note value, you’re just learning licks like a copy machine. That is maybe also why I gave up the classical guitar (no offence Rick, you’re a master of that instrument bro). I just didn’t feel like only intepreting others works (even though you can go to great lengths doing that masterfully), was for me. I thrive on improvisation, both tonal and rhytmical, and could never see myself focusing on being able to sight read other peoples music and notations. I don’t see myself being in the situation (studio musician, classical and such) where I would really need that either.

    However, I do belive that you should learn as much theory as you possibly need and can, since good theoretical knowledge can never hinder you, only help you broaden your horizons, and playing.

    I concur 100%. I do understand where you are coming from with regard to the ‘classical’ approach, that is, interpretation of a piece that was not created by yourself. Although that is an art in itself, I personally feel that improvisation is where my true heart lies and I love nothing more than expressing myself through improvisation. I really enjoy playing classical guitar but the magic of improvisation will always be my true focus. I do feel that transcribing is part and parcel of improvisation too but as Richard said, its the application that matters.

    andyvicius
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    my sight reading is kind of decent… but i’m slow! i agree with richard on transcribing and aplying stuff…

    but i have to say, a few times in jam sessions, more jazz oriented, or at some jazz course, and you have to sight read a melody from a jazz standard on the spot… i’ve been in that situation a few times…. and i’ve said to myself “you lazy bastard, you should practise sightreading jazz standard melodies at least once a week”

    i haven’t started yeat. damm.

    Tom Quayle
    Tom Quayle
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    I sight read quite a bit on gigs but have had some pretty scary experiences doing so.

    I’ve done quite a few big band gigs and did one a few years ago with NYJO (national youth jazz orchestra) here in the UK. Scariest gig of my life with all hand written charts covered in huge runs at silly tempos! I’ve never felt so inadequate in all my life.

    I’ve got so many sax playing mates who can read anything. I used to be in a Chick Corea style fusion band and had to read the tune ‘King Cockroach’ in a rehearsal. Boy did I get left behind! I think this can be a great way to learn though. These high pressure scenarios force you to work really hard and teach you a great deal. It reminds me of Pat Metheny saying, “you always learn the most from being the worst guy in the band.” In terms of sight reading I certainly was!

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